The çhem trails have been with us for years,they are poisoning our air water and foods with chemicals too.l notice the air is heavy very damp and windy it's cold too very little ⛅ and loads of rain.Its not summer,the seasons appear all the same weather now .
1. Yes, I have seen these planes and the cloud coverage exactly as you describe it
2. Unusual wind patters for the last few years…
Also, intensely hot in some geographically areas and only mild in nearby areas. Noticeably hotter in the mid to late afternoon that at midday. WAY more cloud coverage these past years than any I can remember my entire life.
It’s almost become a joke between me and my “awake” friends… when we talk about the weather, it’s a ‘chem trail’ day or it’s a ‘chem-trail free’ day. Those who aren’t awake have noticed the weird patterns in the weather and wonder if this is something to blame on climate change. But their interest in so called climate change has been in an ongoing nosedive.
Liz, I did respond. But for some reason my response to your message posted above. You noting it is hotter in late afternoon rather than mid day is happening here too. Also, as someone else posted, we have many warm days with surprisingly cold winds. Are you seeing that?
I enjoy much of your writings, but this is utter nonsense. This is Jesus in my toast stuff. Please take some time to actually try and understand something before positing such uninformed drivel. Thank you!
My wife was talking to a neighbour. He was walking with his nephew. My wife pointed out the chemtrails. He pooh poohed it. The nephew interjected and said they are studying this at U Vic. He was in an environmental sciences program. He explained ‘we are cooling the planet. It is awesome!’ The neighbour did the standard ‘It isn’t happening. That is crazy conspiracy talk …Oh it is? Wow, isn’t that wonderful.’ All in about three sentences. It might not be happening where you are. It is happening though.
Other than your neighbor's nephew, will you please share any articles or links regarding the U Vic "study" or any credible evidence that this is happening anywhere. Thank you!
There are a ton of MSM articles debunking chemtrails. But if you scroll through page after page of MSM propaganda you start to get scientific papers saying they are doing it in places. And it is to cool the planet. But you have to sift through pages of MSM junk. Anything from the MSM ignore. They lie.
Some days you can taste it. UK has had the coldest summer I can ever remember(despite what the fake official stats will report), and the weird thing is that some days it start off fine then turns cold then fine and it is definitely not normal weather fronts. Something’s up.
I'm one of those people who doesn't really believe in widespread chemtrails although I'm certain of nothing. I agree that
(a) some experiements in sun reflection at least have been done
(b) weather modification definitely seems to happen which does involve cloud-seeding etc. - so if this is what chemtrails are then I do accept that.
However I don't think that there is massive widespread application of toxic heavy metals ostensibly to reflect sunlight. There has been a lot of fake evidence produced (silly pictures of planes claimed to be equipped to spray such chemicals and interviews with anonymous pilots etc.) - which doesn't prove anything one way or the other. But my best guess is that chemtrails are a red herring conspiracy - deliberately fostered as part of the psyop to discredit the conspiracies which are real. If I end up being wrong, then I'm wrong :-)
All that said, in terms of your main hypothesis - heat is transferred in three different ways: radiation, convection and conduction.
Heat from the sun arrives in the form of radiation and thus can indeed be reflected back into space without being absorbed.
Once the radiation had been absorbed it would indeed have a much harder time re-escaping because the process of absorption converts the radiation (which can escape easily) into heat which will be transferred by convection or conduction. Even then the height at which it was absorbed would still make some difference as - if absorbed higher in the atmosphere as opposed to the earth's surface it is more likely to escape back into space, either
(i) as a very fast moving gas molecule (the distribution curve will ensure there are always some of these, although the number is small)
(ii) through reconversion back to infrared radiation which happens - all warm objects emit infrared radiation and this again can escape more easily.
It really isn’t a question of ‘belief’. If it isn’t happening where you are then lucky you. Where it is happening it is obvious. We aren’t fools. We see it happening right in front of us. A grid of lines is laid down and these lines spread until a cloud cover is formed.
BTW ‘it isn’t poison’. How do you know if you ‘don’t believe in widespread chemtrails’? Do you know which chemicals they are spraying us with? Which chemicals would it be good to be sprayed with? Just curious.
I am a logical person. You aren’t being reasonable or logical. 1. If 1000s of people say it is happening in their areas…and I will accept it isn’t happening in yours…why would you disbelieve them? Especially considering many of us have posted pics of it. And many of the people are educated and observant? 2. If you think we are all liars, then so be it. No point in talking anymore. But if you think we aren’t then it must be happening. Or, there might be another explanation. If so, what alternative explanation can you come up with? 3. If you agree we aren’t liars and it is happening then what chemicals is it healthy to spray a population with? If they aren’t poison then what is it? Are they spraying us with Vitamin D? Vitamin C? Curcumin? Ashwagandha? Or something with a heavy chemical name? And if it is the latter are you personally okay with a heavy chemical spray over your city more or less daily for a number of years? As has been happening in my city.
BTW…I didn’t say it was designed to kill us. But inhaling chemicals daily, chemicals that shouldn’t be a constituent of air will kill people over time. There are countless examples of this over the last 100 years.
I have no idea what it is, and it is not my job to know what is actually going on.
If you believe that the skies are being sprayed with poison or particles to block the sun, then offer some actual evidence. Thus far I have seen a lot of BS offered as evidence (not necessarily from you) - interviews with anonymous pilots, pictures of weather planes claimed to be specially equipped to spray, etc.
I accept that there are people claiming they are seeing odd trails in a number of locations. I have never seen this anywhere I have been (and I travel a fair bit) so it is difficult for me to judge how widespread it is, or even whether the whole thing is a psyop.
But even if I accepted that *something* is happening, that's a far cry from hard evidence of poison or sun-blocking. By all means speculate that this might be happening - yes I agree it's possible. But claiming it *is defintely happening* requires a great deal more evidence than I have seen anywhere to date.
Believing without sufficient evidence is how people end up following Icke down the lizard hole.
Whenever I read about Chemtrails, it reminds me of the movie SNOWPIERCER. There are always unintentional consequences when people attempt to thwart the will of God.
You gotta know blocking the sun is a cover story and that there's a reason they're poisoning us. I must say in the past maybe even month, the fierce and relentless spraying has stopped - don't know what that's about - hopefully they ran out of money here....
Why do you think it's stopped and why do you think it will start up again? If it's because they've run out of money (or even time - it must be so busy for them trying to destroy the world with so many irons in the fire) then dare we hope it's finally effing over?
I am guessing it is illegal and more and more people were seeing it. So they are backing off. Which means they will let it go for a bit, then start over. Altho…it might be as simple as ‘hmm, we can’t advertise this as people will go nuts. We aren’t therefore getting credit for it and it is costing us money.’
I live on an island and it’s definitely been windier. We have x marks the spot trails every couple days, then it’s a couple days of “over cast” which should happen on an island in the middle of the ocean. We also have a house in NC and the trails there are crazy. I’m in upstate NY right now and the other day was the craziest sky I’ve ever seen, I think it was drones spraying. We see it, but what can we do about it?
Good catch! The extra hot later afternoons compared to mid day. I hadn’t thought of that. It could be the hot air accumulation blow back wind?
The çhem trails have been with us for years,they are poisoning our air water and foods with chemicals too.l notice the air is heavy very damp and windy it's cold too very little ⛅ and loads of rain.Its not summer,the seasons appear all the same weather now .
I notice the wind is oddly cold now. A warm day with a cold breeze.
1. Yes, I have seen these planes and the cloud coverage exactly as you describe it
2. Unusual wind patters for the last few years…
Also, intensely hot in some geographically areas and only mild in nearby areas. Noticeably hotter in the mid to late afternoon that at midday. WAY more cloud coverage these past years than any I can remember my entire life.
It’s almost become a joke between me and my “awake” friends… when we talk about the weather, it’s a ‘chem trail’ day or it’s a ‘chem-trail free’ day. Those who aren’t awake have noticed the weird patterns in the weather and wonder if this is something to blame on climate change. But their interest in so called climate change has been in an ongoing nosedive.
Liz, I did respond. But for some reason my response to your message posted above. You noting it is hotter in late afternoon rather than mid day is happening here too. Also, as someone else posted, we have many warm days with surprisingly cold winds. Are you seeing that?
That's a very interesting observation on heat dissipation patterns and wind. Thank you.
You are welcome.
Btw…has it been extra windy in your area these past two years?
I'm in Prescott AZ and not especially. This idea of the heat has to go somewhere makes me reflect on some of the high temps some areas are seeing
I enjoy much of your writings, but this is utter nonsense. This is Jesus in my toast stuff. Please take some time to actually try and understand something before positing such uninformed drivel. Thank you!
One of many: https://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/what-are-chemtrails.htm
My wife was talking to a neighbour. He was walking with his nephew. My wife pointed out the chemtrails. He pooh poohed it. The nephew interjected and said they are studying this at U Vic. He was in an environmental sciences program. He explained ‘we are cooling the planet. It is awesome!’ The neighbour did the standard ‘It isn’t happening. That is crazy conspiracy talk …Oh it is? Wow, isn’t that wonderful.’ All in about three sentences. It might not be happening where you are. It is happening though.
Other than your neighbor's nephew, will you please share any articles or links regarding the U Vic "study" or any credible evidence that this is happening anywhere. Thank you!
There are a ton of MSM articles debunking chemtrails. But if you scroll through page after page of MSM propaganda you start to get scientific papers saying they are doing it in places. And it is to cool the planet. But you have to sift through pages of MSM junk. Anything from the MSM ignore. They lie.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/10/13/what-is-solar-geoengineering-sunlight-reflection-risks-and-benefits.html
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/340348307_Chemtrails_are_Not_Contrails_Radiometric_Evidence
There are more links than those. But these will show there is credible evidence it is happening. Now…to what extent? I don’t know.
Some days you can taste it. UK has had the coldest summer I can ever remember(despite what the fake official stats will report), and the weird thing is that some days it start off fine then turns cold then fine and it is definitely not normal weather fronts. Something’s up.
Some good stuff here..https://open.substack.com/pub/secularheretic/p/are-haarp-and-icd-using-sai-chemtrails?r=u16ew&utm_medium=ios
That was interesting. Thanks.
I'm one of those people who doesn't really believe in widespread chemtrails although I'm certain of nothing. I agree that
(a) some experiements in sun reflection at least have been done
(b) weather modification definitely seems to happen which does involve cloud-seeding etc. - so if this is what chemtrails are then I do accept that.
However I don't think that there is massive widespread application of toxic heavy metals ostensibly to reflect sunlight. There has been a lot of fake evidence produced (silly pictures of planes claimed to be equipped to spray such chemicals and interviews with anonymous pilots etc.) - which doesn't prove anything one way or the other. But my best guess is that chemtrails are a red herring conspiracy - deliberately fostered as part of the psyop to discredit the conspiracies which are real. If I end up being wrong, then I'm wrong :-)
All that said, in terms of your main hypothesis - heat is transferred in three different ways: radiation, convection and conduction.
Heat from the sun arrives in the form of radiation and thus can indeed be reflected back into space without being absorbed.
Once the radiation had been absorbed it would indeed have a much harder time re-escaping because the process of absorption converts the radiation (which can escape easily) into heat which will be transferred by convection or conduction. Even then the height at which it was absorbed would still make some difference as - if absorbed higher in the atmosphere as opposed to the earth's surface it is more likely to escape back into space, either
(i) as a very fast moving gas molecule (the distribution curve will ensure there are always some of these, although the number is small)
(ii) through reconversion back to infrared radiation which happens - all warm objects emit infrared radiation and this again can escape more easily.
It really isn’t a question of ‘belief’. If it isn’t happening where you are then lucky you. Where it is happening it is obvious. We aren’t fools. We see it happening right in front of us. A grid of lines is laid down and these lines spread until a cloud cover is formed.
Right - but is it just cloud seeding to control rainfall? This
- is happening as far as I can tell
- may be unethical for many reasons
- isn't poison and isn't designed to kill us.
BTW ‘it isn’t poison’. How do you know if you ‘don’t believe in widespread chemtrails’? Do you know which chemicals they are spraying us with? Which chemicals would it be good to be sprayed with? Just curious.
Well I don't know it, as I made clear in my first sentence :-).
However I have seen no evidence that poison is being sprayed. And thus, until I am shown evidence, I will go with "I don't think it's happening".
I am a logical person. You aren’t being reasonable or logical. 1. If 1000s of people say it is happening in their areas…and I will accept it isn’t happening in yours…why would you disbelieve them? Especially considering many of us have posted pics of it. And many of the people are educated and observant? 2. If you think we are all liars, then so be it. No point in talking anymore. But if you think we aren’t then it must be happening. Or, there might be another explanation. If so, what alternative explanation can you come up with? 3. If you agree we aren’t liars and it is happening then what chemicals is it healthy to spray a population with? If they aren’t poison then what is it? Are they spraying us with Vitamin D? Vitamin C? Curcumin? Ashwagandha? Or something with a heavy chemical name? And if it is the latter are you personally okay with a heavy chemical spray over your city more or less daily for a number of years? As has been happening in my city.
BTW…I didn’t say it was designed to kill us. But inhaling chemicals daily, chemicals that shouldn’t be a constituent of air will kill people over time. There are countless examples of this over the last 100 years.
I think there must be an alternative explanation.
I have no idea what it is, and it is not my job to know what is actually going on.
If you believe that the skies are being sprayed with poison or particles to block the sun, then offer some actual evidence. Thus far I have seen a lot of BS offered as evidence (not necessarily from you) - interviews with anonymous pilots, pictures of weather planes claimed to be specially equipped to spray, etc.
I accept that there are people claiming they are seeing odd trails in a number of locations. I have never seen this anywhere I have been (and I travel a fair bit) so it is difficult for me to judge how widespread it is, or even whether the whole thing is a psyop.
But even if I accepted that *something* is happening, that's a far cry from hard evidence of poison or sun-blocking. By all means speculate that this might be happening - yes I agree it's possible. But claiming it *is defintely happening* requires a great deal more evidence than I have seen anywhere to date.
Believing without sufficient evidence is how people end up following Icke down the lizard hole.
And you know that how? Control rainfall? I live in the Pacific Rain Forest.
Whenever I read about Chemtrails, it reminds me of the movie SNOWPIERCER. There are always unintentional consequences when people attempt to thwart the will of God.
You gotta know blocking the sun is a cover story and that there's a reason they're poisoning us. I must say in the past maybe even month, the fierce and relentless spraying has stopped - don't know what that's about - hopefully they ran out of money here....
Same around here. But I expect it to be resumed shortly.
Why do you think it's stopped and why do you think it will start up again? If it's because they've run out of money (or even time - it must be so busy for them trying to destroy the world with so many irons in the fire) then dare we hope it's finally effing over?
I am guessing it is illegal and more and more people were seeing it. So they are backing off. Which means they will let it go for a bit, then start over. Altho…it might be as simple as ‘hmm, we can’t advertise this as people will go nuts. We aren’t therefore getting credit for it and it is costing us money.’
I guess we'll find out in due course. Take care Mystic W. 💫
Same to you!
I live on an island and it’s definitely been windier. We have x marks the spot trails every couple days, then it’s a couple days of “over cast” which should happen on an island in the middle of the ocean. We also have a house in NC and the trails there are crazy. I’m in upstate NY right now and the other day was the craziest sky I’ve ever seen, I think it was drones spraying. We see it, but what can we do about it?
That should say… shouldn’t happen on an island…. Especially with the amount of wind we have